Hwasin: Controller of the Heart
Is this my show?
What's that? You two get out.
Honestly, I don't want to hear from you. [He's killing them today!]
We're taking it easy today.
[New Hwasin is more powerful!]
With women, it's about money.
That's so unmanly.
[Yoo Yeon Suk is a perfect, handsome guy?!]
- I am not such a bad person. - Isn't he a bit slow?
I shouldn't talk about it?
[Ryu Hyun Kyung isn't hiding anything anymore!]
I'll do my best to say everything about myself.
['Killing talk' begins here on Hwasin!]
The true thoughts and feelings of every Korean man and woman in today's society.
We close the gap between men and women.
For better communication and understanding--Hwasin!
[Kim In Kwon Ryu Hyun Kyung]
[Yoo Yeon Suk Lee Kyung Kyu]
Before we begin, we always give you a brief summary of our survey results.
We're covering something that's entertaining and fascinating.
For the question, 'What do you look forward to the most about your wedding day?'
83.2 percent of men answered...
The first night.
[LOL!]
The man who's been married for 22 years...
Mr. Lee Kyung Kyu, can you relate to it?
Before that, when there are guests, aren't you supposed to give them a big welcome?
We don't do that here.
What an ill-mannered show is this?
[In a bad mood already, haha]
- We're not old-fashioned here. - It's not that...
We need to feel well-received.
- It's a cold reception. - What do you mean? You know how it goes.
- But still... - It's not like you just got into this business.
What's that?
Don't you know they'll probably edit it out anyway?
- How long have you been in this business? - Almost as long as you have...
[Aren't you mad? It's a battlefield right now!]
Look, Han Hye Jin doesn't treat me like that.
[I miss you, Hye Jin...]
Han Hye Jin and Kim Hee Sun--
- Hye Jin is much nicer. - That's what he says...
[If you miss Hye Jin...]
Fine, then go talk to her.
[Starting off with a series of mean retorts.]
[Good job, Hee Sun! This is 'Killing Camp!']
Women's answers are very interesting as well.
49.4 percent of women gave this answer.
What they look forward to the most on their wedding day...
are gifts of money.
- What would be your answer? - Me?
Rather than the first night, I thought... 'What am I doing here?'
- On the day of your wedding? - Yes, yes.
You have to go beyond the point of no return.
So do you think I could've thought about the first night or monetary gifts?
[Can't think of anything]
Actually, when we went on our honeymoon, we took the record of money gifts with us.
Did you count them all yourself?
I sat in the hotel room and checked the records.
'Oh, you've got to be kidding...'
'This is all he gave?' Something like that.
- I found myself doing that. - Oh, really?
I think he checked who gave how much on the first night as well.
Well, we didn't accept any monetary gifts.
[Ouch...]
Are you boasting about getting married into a wealthy family?
[Dong Yup's timid revenge]
[Hee Sun vs. Kyung Kyu continues]
- In Kwon, you have three daughters, right? - Yes.
Can you understand the results of the survey?
One thing is for sure. Living with my wife, I know that when it comes to women...
it's all about money.
Yes, money is the best.
I heard that when you married...
Because of the circumstances then, I didn't get to receive any monetary gifts.
- You didn't have a wedding ceremony? - No, we couldn't.
I got enlisted in the military. While I was a soldier, my baby was born.
So in other words, he cohabited with her.
But we registered our marriage and started living together officially.
There was no wedding, but after I got discharged from the military...
we received money from family and friends on our baby's first birthday.
You received what you were supposed to get for your wedding on your daughter's birthday.
Yes, our family and friends were present that day.
So you received money instead of a ring for the recognition of her first birthday?
I told them I didn't want any money, but they still gave it to me, so I couldn't refuse.
The baby didn't get anything, but you received money?
You can't give money to a baby. It's not a ring!
[Oh, you're so witty!]
I would like to tell you this one thing.
Today's the tenth episode of Hwasin, isn't it?
You couldn't have better guests than today.
- Isn't it a solid line-up? - Yes!
He is a handsome rising star.
Two of these actors make rare TV appearances.
If you don't get good ratings with us as your guests...
- You should cancel the show. - Now?
If you don't get good ratings with us as the guests.
Really?
Our program director told us to take it easy for this episode.
I'd bet he's shaking nervously as he's watching the monitors right now.
[These are the guests that make the program director shake with anxiety?]
Isn't In Kwon also a regular guest for a TV show on Monday, the day before Hwasin airs?
Don't we get to see him all over the place on Monday and Tuesday?
All over the place?
[Good job, Hee Sun!]
But today really is an opportunity for us because
Kyung Kyu never makes a guest appearance on TV.
That's true.
His latest movie 'The Nation's Singing Contest' will open nationwide soon.
So he's promoting the movie however he can.
Usually, when he's on a TV show for too long, he complains and resists.
But when he's here to promote his own movie, he doesn't complain at all.
Of course.
This is the first time I've been on a TV show this early.
Let's make this into two episodes.
[Let's talk about everything today as well!]
We can do that.
[100% enthusiasm: They'll share stories that fire you up]
Kyung Kyu, he is the embodiment of making pledges.
You made a tremendous pledge recently.
I see many actors making pledges for their movies. Must be a tradition as well.
When our marketing team suggested that I make a pledge
I made a drastic suggestion. In order to support independent filmmakers
I'll give a hundred million won in scholarship funds.
If over three million people watch the movie? So you won't if it doesn't happen?
There is no reason to, you know.
What this means is that he will pay it out of his own pocket.
The distribution of profits from a movie occurs about three months after the release.
Right?
Rather than waiting till then, I'll donate as soon as it happens.
Then what if more than five million people watch it?
How about making another pledge here on Hwasin?
- What if more than five million? - Wait a minute.
If you keep asking me to give back this much and that much, what about me?
Why do people keep saying that I should give back?
[I need to make a living too...]
I heard you promised the actors something.
He promised us something on a TV show.
Once the promotional campaign is over, it doesn't mean anything.
No, wait, he promised us on Strong Heart.
I don't know if you remember, but he did make a pledge when he talked to us on the phone.
I recorded it too.
If over 3 million people watch the movie
he'll send all the actors, actresses, and staff on a trip abroad in business class.
- But as the opening date came closer... - [Sigh...]
[Why did I say that...?]
When we went to drink, he suggested Jeju Island might be better than a trip abroad.
[Making an urgent change to his pledge!]
Do you think Jeju Island is part of our country?
I think it's a foreign country.
[It's automatically a foreign country if you fly over a sea?!]
Seriously. What if more than ten million people watch the movie?
If that happens, then I'll donate an amount of scholarship money that will surprise everyone.
Let's be more specific.
[So... how much?]
If more than ten million people watch it, you should donate at least 1 billion won.
[In Kwon, why would you join them...]
You have to. You have to, you know.
There's no other way.
If you say yes, it'll help garner attention, but you don't have to donate any money.
If I say yes to donating 1 billion won if more than 10 million people watch it
then it's all right with me if fewer than 10 million people watch the movie.
You mean to say that I should give away everything.
But then why should I make movies?
They say I should give this much and that much on this show and on that show.
After appearing on a few TV shows, I am about to give away all of my money.
Okay... I'm going home.
[But you're still going to send us on a trip to Jeju Island, right?]
- We mean the movie is that good. - Yes.
I think he is at the center of all of it. Kim In Kwon.
Let me tell you, this guy is a truly prolific actor.
He was in movies such as 'Haeundae' and 'Masquerade.'
Every movie that he was a supporting actor for became a mega hit.
All he needs to do now is play the lead role in a movie that becomes a hit.
He had a GPA that only 0.8% of all students in the nation had.
- Kim In Kwon! - Hi, I'm Kim In Kwon.
Hi, hi.
['Masquerade,' 'Haeundae']
[The embodiment of prolificness]
I am from Bhutan. Hi to you.
I worked Korea for six years.
Did a lot of factory and manual work.
Give a job please.
How could a royal bodyguard who has sworn to protect the king decide to kill himself?
What else could be high treason if that isn't?
[Received favorable reviews for playing a serious role!]
I was shocked to hear that your GPA was in the top 0.8% in the nation.
Based on my first impression, I thought you didn't study and ran away from home too.
I was so surprised to hear that.
- My wife had the opposite impression of me. - Ah, really?
When my wife saw me for the first time, she thought I grew up in a very wealthy family.
Everyone's supposed to marry somebody, right?
How could someone with that kind of GPA cohabit with someone?
I had no idea.
I've worked with In Kwon before, in a movie.
He was so well-mannered.
He didn't seem like someone who would cohabit with someone.
[An unusual gentleman!]
- He has three daughters, right? - Three daughters.
Many daughters.
Like I said, he's the embodiment of prolificness...
- Father of three daughters. - Any more kids?
I think I might get in trouble if we have more kids.
Then you should have them without telling anyone.
[A new paradigm in family planning?!]
Oh, well, that is an option, I suppose.
But I think I'd get really stressed if I did something like that.
I hear he worked on a movie and a TV drama every time they had another child.
One child for every TV drama.
I did the same thing. I added another TV show every time we had a child.
You should do many projects.
- We have some things in common. - Yes, I have three kids too.
I have three kids too.
I think we have a similar type of sensibility as well.
[That's good!]
Don't you relate to this?
When we were living in a medium-sized house
she bought a lot of stuff.
- Furniture? - Yes. A sofa, TV, and dining table.
She bought a 50-inch TV and a huge couch.
When we set them up in our living room, we had to watch it like this.
[Extra-compact home entertainment area]
- Because the TV is too big. - It was too big.
We almost had to sit on the top of the couch to watch TV.
So I thought we should move to a bigger house.
- Because the TV was too big? - Yes.
- I worked harder because of that. - Yes, that becomes a reason to work harder.
Because the TV was too big.
So I worked on many movies and saved up money. Then we moved to a bigger house.
We moved, but then she bought a bunk bed and a piano.
'There is a strategy behind this.'
'There has to be something behind this.'
- Yes, things like that. - That's why we men come home late.
I heard your oldest daughter gave you a tip when you told her you'd be on a variety show?
My baby told me to have fun.
And not laugh if it isn't funny.
[Don't laugh if it isn't funny]
- Not to force it. - Told me not to force a laugh.
Viewers nowadays don't like conventional entertainment shows.
And when I asked her, 'Should I just sit there and stare?'
She said, 'Wake up. You should enjoy it. Just don't force yourself to laugh.'
Kids know when we force ourselves to laugh.
So they know when our reactions are awkward.
Makes sense.
That's why kids these days like me a lot.
Because I don't laugh too much.
Because I laugh only when I should, they know whether to keep watching me or not.
For over thirty years, Kyung Kyu never forced himself to laugh.
Look at me right now.
Honestly, I don't want to listen to what you have to say.
Why are you so cold?
[Feuding right from the get-go]
[I don't know if you know my philosophy about laughing...]
When you were working with Kyung Kyu, did you feel his commanding presence?
The Kyung Kyu that I worked with wasn't the Kyung Kyu that I knew on TV.
The Kyung Kyu I know told me...
He was grilling beef as if he was meditating.
When he handed me a movie script, he felt like a master craftsman to me.
On occasions like that, you don't talk much, do you?
No, because I might make a mistake.
[Master Lee: Silence is golden]
In Kwon performed very well playing supportive roles, didn't he?
He performed well.
I felt that it was time for him to become a true lead actor.
Really?
Having played the lead role for this movie, I think this will
be a good stepping stone for him to become a leading actor.
Was In Kwon your first choice for the movie?
Pardon?
You know, Hwasin...
didn't think of you as their first choice either.
[Sending you away kindly...]
How did he know that? Seriously.
No such thing as a secret in this world. It's a scary world.
[He is a big star in entertainment indeed]
Since filming is done, can you tell us who it was supposed to be?
There wasn't a specific person who was meant for the lead role.
There were three candidates.
There were Cha Tae Hyun, Lim Chang Jeong, and Kim In Kwon.
Our production staff wanted to work with Kim In Kwon.
He was playing a role in 'Masquerade' at the time.
We waited until he finished that movie.
There was one moment that touched me so much.
When we did our good luck ritual, he told me, 'It's okay if the movie doesn't succeed.'
'I just want you to be happy when you are playing your role,' he told me.
I was so surprised to hear that.
I felt so touched by that. That's when Yoo Yeon Suk and Yoon Hyun Bin came to visit.
'Start singing!' he yelled at them.
So he's an angel to actors but acts like the devil towards comedians?
After wishing me happiness...
He has a notorious reputation among comedians.
When he yelled at them to sing, they started singing.
[Singing their heart out!]
- Also, 'Kids from Bungeobbang'... - [Shush]
We shouldn't talk about it? We're not allowed to?
[What happened?]
The production staff here also work for the 'Bungeobbang Show.'
Camera directors here also work for the 'Bungeobbang Show.'
What will they think of me if I tell you that I made the kids appear in the movie?
But they will be in the movie anyway.
[Aren't they in the movie, anyway?]
- I edited out all of their scenes. - Did you?
I think it wasn't as entertaining as expected.
I feel so sorry about it because I edited them out.
[I'm sorry... I love you...]
You should include it in the director's cut or something.
I'm going to gift it to them.
It will be a good memory for them.
Still, they will come and watch the movie, you know.
They are going to look for themselves in the movie, you know.
Because of that, I...
I think it's a good idea to play in 'Bungeobbang.'
Yeon Suk is the embodiment of hit movies.
Every movie that he is in became a big hit.
He is causing jealousy in every Korean man.
He was in 'Architecture 101' and 'Wolf Boy,' which were viewed by over 10 million people.
It's Yoo Yeon Suk.
[Wolf Boy: 7 million viewers, Old Boy: 3 million viewers, Architecture 101: 4 million viewers]
[4 million people watched 'Architecture 101' (2012)]
[He became the nation's bad guy, the guy from Gangnam]
[He left a huge impression on the viewers!]
Hey. Hey!
[He played a nasty character in Wolf Boy!]
My dad's vacation home is close to here.
It felt closed in because the walls were too high, so I tore them down.
He has such a clean look.
The person that I casted without asking any questions was this guy.
Yoo Yeon Suk.
When I saw his face on my computer screen, I thought, 'He's the guy.'
'Ask no question about him.'
- 'What does he do?' - 'Don't ask.'
'Cast him even if he is not an actor.'
I hear you look at their physiognomy when you hire an actor.
He had the physiognomy that I was looking for.
A handsome guy who is a little thick-headed.
'A handsome guy who looks a little dense. Find him.'
[A dense yet handsome guy]
- He is handsome. - Yes, but doesn't he also look a bit slow?
Look closely.
Do you yourself agree?
When I debuted, it was a complex of mine that I looked boring and simple-minded.
But now, I feel proud of it, like he just said.
There are many types of being handsome.
A face that has room to be filled in.
To make it simple, I told them to 'find a face that's not that of an A-list actor.'
[Kyung Kyu's choice]
A face that could become an A-list actor.
That's Yoo Yeon Suk.
I am good at things like that.
- I can tell by just looking at them. - Then what about me?
You have the physiognomy that makes all the TV shows you're on exactly the same.
When I host a show, it does become similar to my other shows.
It does make sense in a mysterious way.
If Jong Shin hosts a show, it becomes like his other shows.
But it's a great talent.
Dong Yup is so good at talking.
One day Kyung Kyu told me...
'I went to Japan with my daughter and we talked about all kinds of things.'
'My daughter told me that she is a big fan of yours.'
- Ye Rim said that? - Yes.
- You told me that, right? - Yes.
Are you bringing that up yourself?
What are you doing?
I wanted him to elaborate on it but he just won't do it.
- [Please say something] - ...
I asked my daughter, 'Who do you think is the best comedian?'
She told me Dong Yup is the funniest TV personality she knows.
So I thought kids do have an accurate perception about things.
She knows things like that because she has high standards.
- Ye Rim does? - Yes, Ye Rim does.
- How about Hee Sun's physiognomy? - It's good.
She will get free rides even without lifting a finger.
She didn't even accept monetary gifts.
She gets good grades even when she doesn't study.
Even if she half-asses things, she doesn't get in trouble.
She was born at the right time.
If she'd been born ten years later, she would've gotten so much flak.
[Why?]
On the internet, you know.
When Hee Sun was really popular, people weren't using social media.
Yes.
Right? So she was born under a very lucky star.
I heard that people have been expecting big things from you for a long time.
So, did you ever feel like maybe you really looked like you were a bit lacking?
Many of my fellow actors who debuted the same year I did became very successful.
Because there are so many of them who debuted in the same year.
Who are they? Their names?
Mm... the ones that I worked with...
[Fumbles]
It's okay if there aren't any.
No, I just can't remember them right now.
See? I told you he's a bit dense.
This is what I mean.
He could've just said that he doesn't know...
but instead he tried to come up with something.
Mr. Lee told me to talk mostly about myself.
Ah, so he doesn't want you to say their names?
He told me to talk only about the things that will promote the movie.
No, it's a day to talk about this and that and everything.
But you told me otherwise!
[I change in every situation]
You okay now?
He's very disappointed that people don't recognize him.
People remember you from 'Wolf Boy' as the actor who played the villain.
- So that's how they remember you? - People remember him as the villain.
'Wolf Boy' was a period piece and I played a guy who was born into a wealthy family.
- I had an old hairstyle as well. - Topknot?
It wasn't a topknot.
He doesn't watch the movies that you were in. He just looks at your physiognomy.
'He has a good physiognomy,' that's how.
I had a topknot for a TV drama, Mr. Lee.
[I said I heard you!]
[When he lacks that 2% of attention that he needs...]
I don't mind if people don't recognize me in everyday settings.
When they see me at a VIP preview, they of course should recognize and welcome me.
There was a time when that didn't happen.
It was an embarrassing experience for you.
I have an old friend named Lee Cheong Ah.
We entered the venue together.
Reporters came close to where we were.
I thought they were going to ask me to greet the fans.
'Excuse me,' one of them said to us, and I was with Cheong Ah.
'Ah, yes, yes.'
'Sorry, but please move aside so I can interview Cheong Ah.'
They asked you to move aside?
So I replied, 'Yes, okay...'
He should've moved aside before the reporters came close to them.
- On his own. - So he was a bit oblivious.
That's what I meant when I said he's a little slow.
If you're at least somewhat perceptive, you know when a reporter isn't interested in you.
Of course.
With things like that... You should remember this.
If you sense that they aren't interested, you should try to move away.
'Where are you going, Yoo Yeon Suk?' Then you say, 'Ah, me?'
You know, A-list actors hesitate a little when they're asked for an interview.
You should hesitate and say 'Ah, me?' in a low tone of voice.
Recently, I went to an awards show for singers.
When I made an entrance that day, people weren't interested.
It turns out that Big Bang entered the building just before I did.
- Because of that-- - So I think...
He tends to go to too many places, right?
If you are not as good as your peers, you shouldn't be there.
It's a problem because he accepts every invitation.
'Please announce a winner for us.'
'No, it's okay. I am not yet...' You should say that.
But he says, 'I'll be there.' He goes there and isn't welcomed.
Why even go there?
[A handsome guy who's missing the air of loftiness]
In my case, I cannot not go to greet the fans, right?
There was this one instance when Haeundae opened nationwide.
Fans came running toward where I was.
I was walking toward a theater.
They were Lee Min Gi's fans.
His fans were running toward him and they hit me here and there and shoved me aside.
I lost my sense of direction because of that.
I got hit left and right and shoved aside. I had no idea where to go...
What do you do in situations like this?
I think it happens to everyone no matter how popular you are.
When other actors and actresses have just made an entrance
I deliberately wait in my vehicle.
But you are waiting to get more spotlight, you know.
But everyone recognized you, right?
Ah...
- Are you afraid of not being recognized? - You don't have that fear.
That doesn't happen, but I do have experiences like this.
If someone gets a mind-blowing reception from the fans, I think
'What if they cheer for me less than that?' I do have that fear.
I am just like you.
That can't be because I was in a movie with her.
And when Hee Sun arrives at a place...
The moment she arrives, you hear that laughter.
You can hear this sound from 200 meters away.
Every production staff pays attention to her and who she talks with.
Why do they become alert?
Because she had that kind of air about her.
How long ago?
- I think 1990-something... - Should be in the 90s.
Or was it in 2000?
He said it was in the year 2000.
14 years ago.
[It's still in the 21st century!]
Most people don't know this... but I have many talents.
- [What...?] - I have many talents.
[What are you talking about all of a sudden?]
You really are a bit slow upstairs.
He might do a TV commercial soon for that beverage. 'When you're lacking that 2%...'
That's right. I like that drink.
He really is glad to hear that.
Ever since I played villains in movies...
They are saying there is something lacking about you.
They said there is something lacking about you and you go, 'That's right!'
Mr. Lee, ever since I started playing bad guys, I never got to do a commercial.
Ever since I played villains, no more...
I am not such a bad guy. I am a good person.
He shouldn't say that when he got to do a few commercials.
Rather than doing no commercials, you are doing some commercials.
I did commercials for a cheap price in the beginning...
but I don't get even those now.
I think you have to be 2% lacking to do that commercial.
But he's missing a lot more than just 2%.
- Are you pretty athletic? - Yes, I am athletic.
The variety show that I wanted to be on... I like Hwasin too, but...
I want to be on 'Laws of the Jungle.'
I want to make sashimi.
I like making things. I like things like survival skills and traveling.
- By the way, I heard you boxed. - I used to do it to get in shape.
- Is there something amiss about that? - No, no.
Please show it to us because I can tell just by looking at you.
He's well-prepared.
I brought them with me because I am well-prepared.
Did you bring boxing equipment?
[His boxing equipment]
If you do this, you might get to do commercials for sports gear.
Do you like sports stuff?
I like sports gear.
I like things like that.
[My gosh...]
[The man has arrived!]
[He looks like Bruce Lee already]
Right, that's it. That's right. Good, good.
[Yes!]
[Brilliant(?) shadow boxing]
No such thing as impossible.
[Embarrassed...!]
[Everyone in the studio is embarrassed]
When it comes to boxing, jump-roping looks better than punching.
- Let's see your jump-roping. - Like how Rocky does it.
[Oh my... Yeon Suk...]
[Jump-roping like Rocky?!]
Good job.
- No, not like that. - Do it, do it again.
You should go fast like this and then stop.
[Coach Lee is instructing him]
[Ah... something is amiss...]
No such thing as impossible.
[I am waiting for a commercial]
He might actually get to do a commercial now.
His body is very well-shaped. He doesn't have any extra flab.
His physique is very good.
He's a charming and innocent guy, right?
But he gives away his charm to women too easily.
He charms women too easily.
What is she saying?
You are good at seducing men too.
- By the way-- - How does he charm women?
No, it's not that. Yeon and I worked in so many projects together.
He's a year younger than I am.
She's a year older than I am.
When I met her in a TV drama, she pretended that she was way older than she was.
No, before you say that--
I heard from other people that he pretends to be so much older than he is.
So I can't stand anything like that--
- When did I do that? - No, so I, no.
You and you, get out.
What are you doing?
What do you guys think you're doing?
The viewers should see you being good to each other, but you're arguing on camera.
I might edit the movie again and take out every scene you're in.
[A cute threat by the producer of the movie?!]
It's a family movie.
He concluded it as fast as he could.
Without even a lead-in...
'It's a family movie.'
You as an MC should know better!
There should be some flow to it, but he says, 'It's a family movie.'
As if you were giving a State of the Union speech.
Come on, is Hwasin my show or something?
It's not even my own show.
I am picking spots to be used for the preview.
Before we started the show, he told me to do this when I get a chance.
[Oh my...]
- He gave me a prop. - It's a prop for the movie.
This doesn't make an appearance on TV often.
So embarrassing...
[Hwasin is not an easy show to do...]
She's the embodiment of many talents.
You are giving a welcoming introduction to each person, right?
It's so long.
- Should we just move on to the survey? - No, no.
[It's a no, no, no and no]
I am so nervous that you might talk about the survey.
Hyun Kyung is the embodiment of many talents, you know?
Me? Really?
She played the younger versions of
Kim Hae Su, Kang Su Yeon, and Choi Jin Sil in movies and TV dramas.
A veteran actress with 18 years of experience, Ryu Hyun Kyung!
[Embodiment of many talents]
18 years... You started making money since you were very young.
[Been making money for 18 years]
Mr. Lee told me this when he met me for the first time.
'Hyun Kyung, it looks like you've been through a lot,' he told me.
'What do you mean?' I asked him.
He looked at my filmography and said I'd been through a lot and I'll have a brighter future.
He looked at the physiognomy of my filmography.
When he looked at what you've worked on, he said, 'Oh, poor thing.'
[It's time to become successful with Kyung Kyu now?!]
I was in a movie with her titled 'Bicheonmoo' when she was 17 years old.
She was so, so pretty when she was young.
I still have your autograph.
'Hyun Kyung, grow up to be a beautiful woman,' she wrote.
'The most beautiful woman of our time, Kim Hee Sun,' she added.
I thought that was so cool.
She was 17 years old back then, but now she's in her thirties.
You wrote, 'The most beautiful woman of our time?'
I made a movie with Hyun Kyung about ten years ago.
I thought she was going to make it but I noticed she was making music videos and short films.
[Hyun Kyung was the director for the music video for Jung In's 'Those Obvious Words']
I ran into her recently when I was rehearsing for my concert.
She, Jung In, and Jang Gi Ha came to visit me. They were totally drunk.
We talked about a lot of things.
You have friends I didn't expect.
- You have many musician friends. - That's what I mean.
That's true. Why would that be?
Are you going out... with someone?
With situations like that, it's most likely that she was dating a singer.
No, no, no, no, no.
He isn't a singer, right?
That's not true. When I was a radio host, I had many guests who were singers.
Why am I nervous all of a sudden?
- So you're going out with one of those guests? - No, no, no.
I had many guests, so that's how I made many friends who're singers.
And there is something about you that I didn't expect at all.
You said you could've become a rapper?
- It was my dream to become a rapper. - That's why you have many singer friends.
When I was young, I decided to debut as a rapper before I turn 30.
When I was 17, a YG Entertainment manager asked me if I wanted to become a singer.
I went to a fan meeting for Jinusean.
My friends and I were singing their songs.
When he asked me if I wanted to be a singer, I said, 'I'm an actress.'
So I am regretting it to no end.
She's a great dancer too.
Please dance for us.
[Why not!]
[They are totally in tune with the song's beats]
[Totally in sync]
[He's more enthusiastic about it than she is!]
[They're good!]
[They are feeling the music and doing the dance too!]
[Let's dance together]
[So much fun]
[Getting up]
[Yay]
[When did you join...?]
I've never seen Kyung Kyu clap along to a song until its end.
Kyung Kyu doesn't care for hip-hop too much.
He usually doesn't get involved at all.
[He found his hip-hop soul in his fifties]
How come they only did a short version of it?
- There is more... - When someone does something like this...
He goes, 'It's too long, too long.'
[This time, it's not enough...]
The song may sound similar to 'Gangnam Style.'
It's composed by the same person who wrote 'Gangnam Style.'
- The guy who sang that song 'Be Responsible.' - A member of the duo Untitle.
It's Yoo Gun Hyung's song.
He's an international composer now.
I noticed this one-hand move could become very popular.
Let's do it together.
[Is the facial expression the main point?!]
It's part of the song.
PSY gave us the idea for the dance.
I heard that Kyung Kyu is hoping that this song becomes the second 'Gangnam Style.'
You were hoping that would happen.
- No? - Not everything is for that.
No?
I do hope that many people enjoy the song.
What's the music show for SBS?
- Inkigayo. - Ah, I see, I see.
[It's time for 'Nation's Style' now?!]
Hyun Kyung told us when a manager from an agency asked her
if she wanted to become a singer, she said 'I am an actress.'
But I think she might have regretted it even more if she became a singer.
When I saw your dance, it's not really good enough to debut as a musician.
Yang Hyun Suk is letting out a sigh of relief right now.
[Whew!]
[I like being an actress a lot more]
Okay now.
This show is about talking about the main topic for the day, right?
I'll do my best and say everything about myself.
[Anticipating]
[13,345 of Korean men and women participated in the survey]
The top answer to the question, 'Honey, frankly I thought you were mean when you did this.'
Hwasin closes the gap between how Korean men and women think.
13,345 of Korean men and women answered the question.
Today's question is--
They usually stop accepting answers when there are 10,000 participants.
You have about 13,000 participants.
We include everyone.
'Honey, to be honest, I thought you were mean when you did this.'
Guess the top answer to the question when you thought she or he was being mean.
I think I might have been mean to my wife at times...
but as the father of our daughters, I need to spend time with them
so I've done some mean things in order to make the time go faster.
Raising kids in a way that's not nice.
- Dads are like that. - Dads are like that for sure.
For example, when my wife is feeling stressed out, I take the kids on an outing.
I go to a kid's cafe or to a park.
My goal is to make the time go faster.
That's my goal.
Kid's cafes have an indoor playground.
For 2,000 won, they can play for thirty minutes.
30 minutes just go by.
- And there are helpers there too. - Yes.
There are young people who play with them.
- So the parents can have a meal. - Or drink coffee.
- They sell beer too. - They do.
There is a kid's cafe that sells beer?
When I asked a friend of mine, 'Where did you get so drunk?'
'I went to a kid's cafe. I drank 3 liters of beer there.'
A kid's cafe is not only for children but also for their parents too.
Two hours pass by so fast.
They do sell beer.
Tell me where it is.
[Share that information with me]
Also, if you go to an amusement park, they put on concerts.
But it's a free concert. Free concerts, you know?
They perform at 1pm, 4pm, and 8pm every day.
Let's say I want them to watch the 4pm show.
I take the kids there around 1pm.
I tell them we need to watch it from the front seats.
We sit there and I tell them it starts at 4pm.
But we can't go anywhere because somebody might take our seats.
[So mean]
I pass the time like that. It's a mean tactic, I know.
Since you are there with them...
The important thing is that the kids are focused on it, right?
But they were playing with each other and having a lot of fun while waiting.
Because... they were running around and having fun.
I sat there doing some meditation, playing with my smartphone, and making career plans.
- It's an easy way to... - You can do this too, right?
Your kids are focused on watching a kids' show, right?
And I play with my smartphone.
If she says, 'It's boring, Dad,' I say, 'It's fun.'
'It's fun. Look and watch,' like this.
That's how dads are.
When my daughter was young, I played this game a lot
called 'Pretending to be dead.'
We are playing and Dad dies all of a sudden.
[Dad has fun and dies all of a sudden?!]
I heard you drove her to school too.
I did that once in a while.
There is a game where dads lift their kids in the air with their feet, right?
You can launch them into the air really high once in a while.
If you launch them so high, they get scared and go away and don't come to you anymore.
[You are kidding...]
So they won't play with you?
- No. - I've done that too.
[Here's another mean dad!]
My kid asks me to play while I'm watching TV.
She says, 'Play with me when the show is over, okay?'
When the show ends, she says, 'Dad, let's play.'
'Okay, let's play lying down.' I play with them lying down.
Lying down and covering their mouths.
'It's a game of no talking, okay?'
Dads do get mean at times.
Whenever we film a scene, he's there an hour before the shoot.
[I know what you're saying]
Should I talk about it? Maybe I shouldn't talk about it.
He came to the set an hour earlier.
I was wondering why he was so early.
'How come you're here so early?' I asked him.
'I got here early because I could get stuck in a traffic,' he told me.
Later, he told me the truth.
He told me, 'If I'm home, I have to watch the kids.'
[Mean!!!]
So that's why he came here three hours early today, right?
He got here first.
The doors were locked so he talked to a security guard to open the door for him.
They will know for sure once the show airs.
This is the time when they go to school.
Changing them and driving them to school would make things complicated.
I feel somewhat sad.
He's joking to make it sound entertaining.
You go to work early to lead by example, right?
There is something that I appreciate my daughter for.
Before she was born, I thought
'I hope she is born on the day I go to work.'
[Oh my gosh]
What?
I'm just--
- That's mean. - Why is that mean?
If she's born on the day I have to work, it's easier for everyone.
[It's easier for everyone...?]
That means I don't have to be at work.
On 'Healing Camp,' I asked Kyung Kyu
'When is Ye Rim's birthday?' I asked him.
'I think it's sometime in the spring...'
['One Spring Day,' a poem written by Lee Kyung Kyu]
It's a poetic expression.
'Do you know when your wedding anniversary is?' I asked him.
'I think it snowed that day...'
Isn't it so poetic?
So I asked her to be born on the day I have to be at work.
That makes it easier for Mom, Dad, and yourself.
Why? There's no need to concern ourselves with details like whether I'll be there or not.
And she was born on the day I worked.
I appreciate it even to this day.
Everything went well because of that.
Did you book yourself a lot as it got closer to the due date?
Whether I did that or not, why are you asking me that question?
I didn't do things like that. I just wanted her to be born on the day I worked.
I had to work two days out of a week.
The important thing is she got the right timing.
She was already a good daughter on her first day here.
Being a dad equals being mean.
You talked about the day she was born.
I feel so sorry about this one thing.
My daughter was born when I was in the military.
I was on vacation around the due date.
I had enough time to be there for my wife when she gives birth.
But the due date passed and there was no sign of the baby coming out.
So the doctor told us to go home.
That means I don't get to see my baby coming into the world, you know.
So I...
asked my wife...
- 'Do you think... we could...' - C-section?
No, we didn't even consider C-section.
Then taking a birth-facilitating drug?
She took it but it still didn't work.
- So I... - What did you ask her to do?
I heard about this thing you should never try.
Squatting up and down...
To hurry it up.
I think it was a very dangerous thing to do.
But... my wife...
took it upon herself to do it.
She wanted you to be there...
- when the baby is born. - I still feel sorry about it.
She did it and the water broke.
From that moment, everything worked out fast and the baby was born.
I was holding the baby and I felt so touched and teary.
- You were a soldier? - Yes, I was on vacation for it.
I went back to my base after taking care of my wife for a few days.
I was crying so much...
Kyung Kyu told us he appreciated that his daughter was born on the day he had to work.
Right after that, there's his story.
You should stay at your military base and protect your country, right?
You talk about babies being born. I was born today.
April 11th, 1984. Today is my birthday.
Okay, I see.
What do you want from me?
Want us to sing you a song?
Congratulations.
[Totally not genuine!]
He didn't even sing the 'happy birthday' part.
'Congratulations...'
You know...
Nobody wished me happy birthday because I was working all night.
- Happy birthday. - Oh, thank you.
She wished me happy birthday...
- Today is your birthday? - Yes.
When a producer hears something like this from his actor, he usually lends him his credit card.
Why would I hand over my credit card to him?
To someone I've met for the first time.
- Never seen me before? - I've never seen you before.
Who was in your movie, then?
[Can anyone be meaner?!]
[Anyway, happy birthday]
In Kwon, I heard you know how to handle your kids when you take them shopping.
Whenever we go shopping together, we buy them toys.
There are so many toys back home.
The pile gets bigger and bigger and bigger.
It gets bigger when a new toy is released.
When my kids tell me they want a specific toy, I tell them
'Okay...'
'This? Okay, it's yours. Come over here.'
If that toy costs 10,000 won, I show her two toys that cost 5,000 won each.
'These two are the same toys.'
'Which one do you want?' I ask them.
Once she chooses one out of the two toys, then I take those two toys
and show them a toy that costs 1,000 won and ask
'You can have 2 of these or 10 of those. Which one do you want?'
'This one,' she says. Then I look for a toy that costs 2,000 won.
I keep explaining the economy behind it. How this one is 5,000 won and whatnot.
If I keep doing that, they get frustrated and just give up.
They forget which toy they wanted.
I make her want a toy that's 500 won in the end.
I buy that toy for them and I do this to my wife.
Dads can be mean at times like this.
During breaks, I miss my kids so much, so I call them.
I am the one who called them.
- 'Let me talk to Ra Yic.' - 'Dad, what did you do today?'
I tell him and ask him to let me talk to the other one and...
After some time, my desire to talk to them goes away.
I want to hang up but they aren't hanging up.
So I say, 'I have to go back to work,' and I hang up when I want to.
But they wanted me to talk more.
- How old are they? - Seven, five and four years old.
When they're 20 years old, they hang up first even when you want to talk to them longer.
That's what I've heard.
A friend of mine has a daughter.
He brought her up like a princess.
Now that she's a junior high student, she only says two things to him.
'No!' 'Get out!'
She says no to whatever he asks and tells him to get out of her room.
- Has Ye Rim ever behaved like that? - No.
I think Ye Rim never went through puberty.
Not that you missed it?
[Ah...]
[How did he know...?]
Do you know which celebrity Ye Rim likes?
- Which musicians? - Yes.
Musicians or TV personalities.
[Not sure...]
Been so long since we talked...
When she was in elementary school, she liked comedians.
In junior high, she liked singers.
In high school, she liked actors.
In college, she likes the men around her.
- More than celebrities. - Yes, yes.
Has she ever brought home a boyfriend?
I drove them to a play when she wanted to watch a play with her boyfriend.
- You drove both of them? - Yes, they were in my car.
- How did you feel about him? - Pardon?
For some reason, I wanted to hit him or something.
[How every dad feels!]
- [Just wanted to...] - [Flinch]
Because we know what they really want.
My friends and I talked about it. We hated even thinking about it.
Kyung Kyu, everyone knows you are not a pushover at all, right?
Didn't her boyfriend get afraid of you?
Me? You know I am very loving and kind.
[Excuse me?]
[Loving...]
[... and kind?]
You may not know it, but I'm very loving and kind.
Who told you that?
I think I am that way.
I asked him, 'So, are your studies going well? Good.'
I don't say anything else.
I have that commanding presence.
[Presence that's full of danger]
I overheard him talking to his daughter.
'Dad, there are about 50 first-year students and the total number is about 180.'
'Okay, I got it,' and he hung up.
What was it about?
She is a first-year student.
She asked him to give her 180 movie tickets so that
everyone majoring in theater and film could watch the movie.
I say yes to whatever she asks of me.
If she needs it, I am willing to give up a body organ for her.
If need be.
What do you think of Yeon Suk as her boyfriend?
[Yeon Suk as Ye Rim's boyfriend...?]
I would be okay with that.
[Oh, really?]
There is something lacking about him, you know?
That's the best. It's not good if they are too smart.
He's pretty dense, you know?
That's the kind of man that makes a good son-in-law.
He is like that and he's good at taking care of himself too.
- Yes, yes. - Those are the good ones.
From your perspective, Yeon Suk.
How about Kyung Kyu as your father-in-law?
For several decades, right?
I think...
I think... he could pave the way for my success.
[Paving his way]
- He's so mean. - So mean.
[Completely unexpected!]
Nevermind, there is nothing amiss about him.
- He is very... - Thank you, my father-in-law.
[Mr. Lee (54 years old) paves the way for his success]
Kyung Kyu would be a great choice in paving your success in the entertainment industry.
I like being part of a good team.
And you thought he was just a kitten.
I thought he was just a cute kitten. Turns out he's a tiger.
[A tiger with a kitten's mask on?!]
What was your philosophy when you were bringing up Ye Rim?
I did have one.
'Let's do whatever my wife wants me to do.'
That's good.
'Let's not say anything about my wife's way of parenting.'
- No interfering. - Let's not interfere.
If my wife is scolding my daughter for something, I shouldn't interfere.
- Dads usually interfere hastily. - They do.
Before I open a door, if I hear my wife raising her voice and my daughter is crying
then I quietly go outside.
I shouldn't interfere what's happening between them.
That's my philosophy.
If I interfere with my wife, it becomes worse.
I shouldn't interfere with my wife's parenting when I'm not going to take responsbility--
Could it be... that you're too lazy to interfere?
I feel that way too.
[You are a little mean]
I think the kind of meanness In Kwon talked of is something that every dad can relate to.
- Should we check his answer? - Yes.
'I used a trick to avoid playing with my kids.'
Let's check the answer.
[Out of the rankings]
It's so scary.
- Is it out of the rankings? - It is out of the rankings.
Really?
I competed in a swimming tournament when I was in elementary school.
It must've been for backstroke.
If it was freestyle, you would've done this.
- 'I competed in a swimming competition.' - Ah, I didn't set it up right.
It was easy to tell the competition was for backstroke.
I went to the finals.
I was competing against a girl because we had about the same body size.
I've learned that men should always be stronger than women.
When it started, I was doing my backstroke.
I noticed that she was faster than me.
She was faster.
I felt as if the sky was falling down on me in that moment.
You lose your pace that way.
It hurt my pride so much.
'A man shouldn't lose to a woman.'
Because my competitor was a girl, I was relaxed about it.
And she kept getting faster.
That's when... I used the rails.
[A foul play]
I pulled myself using the rails to win at any cost.
'I don't think they'll notice it,' I thought to myself.
I did that and I won.
I won.
Are you allowed to win like that?
One of the organizers walked up to me and said
'You foolish boy.'
After the event, I realized, 'A guy could lose to a girl...'
Let's check the answer.
[Out of the rankings]
The moment you try to defeat a woman, you lose.
I had this experience.
In one of the episodes of 'Qualifications of Men'
Tae Won was diagnosed with stomach cancer, right?
Tae Won was going into the operating room.
When I saw that, I felt so sad.
I felt that way because it could happen to anyone.
It was not just someone else's problem.
I felt so... sad about that.
I was sitting down... and tears started coming down.
[Upon looking at Tae Won who's heading into an operating room]
[He was crying]
I used to hate showing myself when I cry.
As I aged, I thought to myself, 'Everyone cries. Let's show this side of me.'
I couldn't stop the tears either.
I cried... and the operation was successful.
It was included in the final cut.
One day, my wife went to a hospital because she felt ill.
When she came back... I didn't ask her about what the doctor told her.
[Must've been a horrifying moment!]
Over small things like that...
She was crying in the afternoon.
I asked her, 'Why are you crying?'
'You cried so much when Tae Won was sick...'
'But you don't even ask me when I am sick?'
I thought, 'Heavens!'
When I was crying, looking at Tae Won then, I felt something was off.
[He had that ominous feeling as he was crying...]
I knew it would come back to bite me.
- You know that sometimes. - We do, we do.
You showed a humane side of yourself but--
'After doing something I shouldn't have done, this will come back to bite me somehow.'
You can sense it, you know.
As I was crying then, I remember thinking...
'I think something might go wrong...'
I told her this one thing that afternoon. I think it was a very unmanly thing to say.
'But I was on TV that time...'
[The definition of unmanliness]
He abandoned Tae Won and turned to his wife.
I couldn't go and say
I couldn't say, 'I love Tae Won,' or 'I felt bad for him.' I would've gotten into more trouble.
That's why I said... in a sad tone
'I was on TV... I had to cry...'
It's sad.
I thought to myself at that moment, 'This is so unmanly.'
I should've just honestly told her that I'd forgotten about it.
I also felt afraid to ask her about it in case it was something serious.
But these are just excuses.
It was seriously problematic because I didn't ask her about it.
When I got a phone call from her at 5pm, I went home immediately.
On the day she came back from the hospital?
When she called me and asked, 'What are you doing?' I heard the hostility in her voice.
I thought, 'I should resolve this right away,' so I went straight home.
Because it would get much worse if I got home later.
It was a situation where I was being unmanly...
Why did Tae Won have to get sick?
[It's all your fault!]
What is impressive about the wisdom drawn from his life experiences is that
he felt sad about Tae Won, but he also had that gut feeling that
something bad might happen out of it based on his lifetime of experiences.
That's right.
So that's why you should be careful when you're on air.
- People might applaud you for something now-- - But it might haunt you later.
This is the highest level of unmanliness that I've seen.
This is one of my life experiences.
I think this one might be in the rankings.
It's something that I've used a lot early in the marriage and even now as well.
It's... a very... unmanly thing to do.
When my wife tells me
'It hurts so much here,' she tells me. Then I go, 'What's that?'
'It hurts so much.'
Oh...
I say, 'How come I can't breathe?'
My wife can't say anything about her feeling sick now
since I am even more sick than she is.
[Right Right]
- He is an expert. - An expert, an expert.
'What did you say?'
'Let me take some pills.'
When I do that, she doesn't say much about it.
When she pretends to be sick, pretend that you are even more sick.
That's the best response.
[The plateau of unmanliness]
You should do it as soon as you walk into the house.
When you walk in
[Feeling sick as soon as getting home?!]
[Can't believe this!]
'Hurts so much.'
This makes it easy on you because they always ask you
to do something. It's better to pretend you're injured.
'Oh, oh, something's wrong with my leg.'
You get caught if you forget that you feigned an injury.
That happens. You do forget at times.
- You should keep up the act. - You should.
If you do it often enough, you just feel sick when you get home.
[The state of mastery]
You feel sick just sitting.
Even if there is nobody else in the house, I go...
'Oh, it hurts.'
I sometimes get a tummy ache, and it's no problem walking...
but I ask my manager to help me by holding my arms.
I have a witness now.
It was when... I was going through a tough time.
My wife would nag me, 'See, I knew it. Why would you trust somebody like that?'
I felt so stressed out.
I noticed that she wasn't sleeping, so I...
gave a big sigh and looked out the window.
You knew she wasn't sleeping?
- 'What?' - 'Mm, why?'
'Okay, sweetie, I am sure things will work out once enough time passes.'
So I'd say, 'Oh, you weren't sleeping?' Then I went back to sleep.
- You need to cry at times like that. - You need to cry?
Sit down on a couch and go...
So that she can hear.
[Step 1: Cry loud enough so that everyone can hear]
[Step 2: Put a bottle of liquor on the dining table]
[A cry of the breadwinner that touches the heart]
- 'Pretend you are sick?' - Yes.
'When my wife is sick, I pretend I'm even more sick and go to an emergency room.'
[To an emergency room...?]
Let's check the answer.
[Out of the rankings]
[Next week on Hwasin]
[This is just the beginning!]
[Unimaginable unmanliness comes to you!]
[Kyung Kyu's most unmanly moment of his life!]
Blood dripped down like this.
- You aren't an elementary student. - You just talked about it.
He looked at me, and I went, '40,000 won.'
I didn't like that we were becoming uglier.
- A fool's gold. - What do you know?
- You hurt me. - I can't believe this.
Please stop that!
[Next week: 'Honey, I thought you were mean when you did this!']
[We'll tell you even more powerful stories!]